tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30544984.post1472670272680121692..comments2024-03-08T03:24:19.823-05:00Comments on Where The Hell Am I?: Denial Much? It's Not Just Korea...It's Everyone!Reginahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09024832959937205245noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30544984.post-56767000854018145022007-09-08T20:06:00.000-04:002007-09-08T20:06:00.000-04:00Yeesh. I've got cheerleaders. This blogosphere i...Yeesh. I've got cheerleaders. <BR/><BR/>This blogosphere is a strange place.Reginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09024832959937205245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30544984.post-44955761627666513002007-09-08T14:47:00.000-04:002007-09-08T14:47:00.000-04:00It's cool to watch you defend your turf....As oppo...It's cool to watch you defend your turf....<BR/><BR/>As opposed to being the one who (whom???) you are defending against.<BR/><BR/>Go Regina! Go!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05335339165576999903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30544984.post-62395620345232584622007-09-06T21:48:00.000-04:002007-09-06T21:48:00.000-04:00Well, either we're going to go back and forth on i...Well, either we're going to go back and forth on it or you'll be smart enough to accept that you're on my turf and I'm not going to back down.<BR/><BR/>I'm right. <BR/><BR/>Stop trolling or go back to Mike's blog to troll.<BR/><BR/>Take care.Reginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09024832959937205245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30544984.post-18139546933343313512007-09-06T21:44:00.000-04:002007-09-06T21:44:00.000-04:00Admit it, you were wrong.Admit it, you were wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30544984.post-85771757029268634052007-09-06T04:07:00.000-04:002007-09-06T04:07:00.000-04:00Yes, I did trump you because your point was I don'...Yes, I did trump you because your point was I don't have some social studies report. <BR/><BR/>Most things don't have the social studies reports to back them up. In the interim people make the best deductions that they can and, yes, some of those deductions have been very wrong. However, on this one, it's pretty clear from the sad focus on status and prestige degrees that Korean society sets up a system where it's actually rational to lie and cheat. <BR/><BR/>You don't get second chances. You don't get to take the test again in most cases for months or years. I'm sure there are some merit-based success stories here, but I've yet to hear any. Everyone seems to feel the need to wrap themselves up in degrees as the way to status. <BR/><BR/>Of course, education is valuable. I'd never trade mine in, but this environment sets people up to cheat. If you're arguing otherwise, I'd say you're in some deep denial.<BR/><BR/>I never said the US is superior to Korea in every aspect, so don't wander on here putting words into mouth. <BR/><BR/>Click on some of my earlier posts where I was tearing into my president quite frequently and posts where I've placed the blame squarely on the US electorate for the shit-storm we've caused pretty much worldwide. Then double back and accuse me of saying that America is superior.<BR/><BR/>Beyond that, that point isn't even worth addressing any further. <BR/><BR/>Take the "us vs. them" accusations to another Korea blog.Reginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09024832959937205245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30544984.post-4985708841675759412007-09-06T01:14:00.000-04:002007-09-06T01:14:00.000-04:00"So bring it on because your point is acknowledged..."So bring it on because your point is acknowledged and trumped."<BR/><BR/>No, you did not trump my point. <BR/><BR/>"Yes, I'll admit is anecdotal, at best, and it's squarely based on my experience of living and working here. However, I’d be willing to bet a very large sum that if studies were done my hunch would turn out to be very much true."<BR/><BR/>Anecdotal. Hunch. Nothing left to say. Why don't you actually do your research before making assumptions? I'm not denying that false degrees are a problem in Korea, but you do have a tendency to project an "us vs. them" mentality on Koreans, singling them out unfairly. That is what I took issue with. America is mainly progressive, while Korea is backwards, etc. That is your point. <BR/><BR/>"That would be a better story and might actually turn the tide in Korea to changing the situation rather than denial where they get to say "well, see??? Those foreigers do it too." Well, some might but it doesn't go as deep as it does here and we know that too."<BR/><BR/>America is not superior in every aspect to Korea. Korea is not as litigious as America and not so quick to out someone like in America where there is a mass "witchhunt" to out people for shaving their legs or other silly things, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30544984.post-49265773730961015852007-09-05T05:52:00.000-04:002007-09-05T05:52:00.000-04:00Give me a break.Yes, I'll admit is anecdotal, at b...Give me a break.<BR/><BR/>Yes, I'll admit is anecdotal, at best, and it's squarely based on my experience of living and working here. However, I’d be willing to bet a very large sum that if studies were done my hunch would turn out to be very much true.<BR/><BR/>Tell me, why is it that references aren't routinely checked here in Korea? Tell me why is it that degrees weren't routinely verified for foreigners until just a couple of years ago here? Tell me why they've just figured out that they ought to verify anyone's academic background even if it's a Korean?<BR/><BR/>I was completely perplexed when I started applying to get work here. This was particularly so because I was applying for jobs at universities. Why wouldn’t they go out of their way to verify EVERYTHING I’d said? I was used to things in the States where you KNOW they're going to contact your school. You KNOW they're going to ask for and actually follow-up with references. And when you KNOW they’re going to check out your story, believe me, you’re less likely to make things up.<BR/><BR/>I don't know how deep it goes in other countries, for sure. I'll even admit that people lie back home too.<BR/><BR/>However, in my home country, the USA, someone who drops out of Harvard can build himself up and have one of the most successful companies in the world.<BR/><BR/>Tell me how often that happens here? I think if it could happen people in Korea wouldn't be so suck on paper and the benefits that come with it because they'd see that merit does stand for something too.<BR/><BR/>Also, I know that in my home country, when I go home to apply for work, they’re going to reach back to my undergrad, law school and even Ewha to verify my degrees. When I apply to a PhD program the schools are going to check and want verification about not only my education, but the rest of my story about what I’ve been up to. Hence why you need and why they actually check references.<BR/><BR/>That’s just starting to happen here and, if you live or work here, you know that.<BR/><BR/>So bring it on because your point is acknowledged and trumped.Reginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09024832959937205245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30544984.post-52069840238872168732007-09-05T05:20:00.000-04:002007-09-05T05:20:00.000-04:00"That would be a better story and might actually t..."That would be a better story and might actually turn the tide in Korea to changing the situation rather than denial where they get to say "well, see??? Those foreigers do it too." Well, some might but it doesn't go as deep as it does here and we know that too."<BR/><BR/>You don't know how deep it goes on in other countries, so you can't say that Korea does it more than the rest of the world. That's your assumption. When you can prove that you have the experience working in other countries besides the US and Korea, then I would consider your statement. Right now, it has no legitimacy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com